September 2023

Forums Monthly Challenges September 2023

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    • #15150
      Silks Stars Team
      Moderator

        Standing Roll to Ankle Hang Belay Split Push Out and Two-Hand Standing Roll to Foot Lock Belay Split (Mini Rig) post your questions, comments and work below!

      • #15281
        uberannie
        Participant

          4 days in and no posts, is everyone scarred from hip lock roll ups last month 😀 I am finally able to start attempting monthly challenges yay and this looks fun!

          I would love some tips on hand placements when going from single foot russian to the push out to regrabbing to put your body through the loop – ie the first few moves.

          Also I notice when tipping over (going from foldover to kicking your legs over and through to end up in standing) I am currently leaving my foot on the whole way rather than taking my second foot off when I am in candlestick – is it essential to take the foot off? It makes the belay loop quite long otherwise (the belay loop you end up with your knee in) – is that the intent ?

          • #15283
            Silks Stars Team
            Moderator

              Right?!?! We were getting worried about ya’ll, hahah!
              Great questions, Brett can cover this in the Q&A.

            • #15319
              uberannie
              Participant

                I just watched the Live Q&A replay, thank you for the tips, looking forward to trying them out. I don’t think I’ll make this month’s submission but aim to submit another month. You guys release so many cool challenges if only I had more time to train 🙂

            • #15282
              Danica.Liu
              Participant

                I’m finding the rotation to the split quite difficult for my back – is it ok if I’m less than horizontal? Other question, any tips for the foot that is crossed in the belay – when I rotate to the split I find my foot sometimes comes out. Should I be actively flexing it? I’m pretty sure I’m pointing it out of habit 😂

                • #15284
                  Silks Stars Team
                  Moderator

                    Finding how the sequence works with your body safely is key. And Brett might have some ideas how to aim for horizontal while listening to your body.
                    As for the foot, generally speaking, keeping tension between the fabric and your foot typically allows for the foot to be either flexed or pointed. However, since this sequence really plays with tension, Brett may have some more specific tips for this in the Q&A.

                  • #15297
                    Danica.Liu
                    Participant

                      I’ve tried different options, but am not convinced the split is available to me. Am I able to do a version of the mini rig split, but still do the full rig version for the rest?

                    • #15298
                      Dorag
                      Participant

                        What worked for me is placing the footlock low and also grabbing the silks with my hands low before turning. I initiate the rotation with my right knee, my hips follow and upper body at the end.

                      • #15301
                        Silks Stars Team
                        Moderator

                          @dorag – Fabulous! Yes, a low foot lock gives you a longer amount of fabric to work between the feet, and placing the hands low gives us the most room for back flexibility. Typically, you want to take some weight out of the joint you are rotating, in this case, shift the weight from ankle hang to the hands, so you don’t over tax the joint in rotation. And, while hips move in a variety of ways, we also typically suggest initiating rotation from the core out, so from the hips first. If you are starting to feel funky in the knee or hip from your knee first pathway, check in with you abs and glutes for support of the joints and/or try initiating the turn in the hip of the ankle hang leg. Happy training!

                        • #15299
                          Silks Stars Team
                          Moderator

                            @Danica – Sounds like a wonderful way to make the sequence work for you! You may also find tips given below to @cathy and @dorag helpful pieces to keep in mind as you work on the shapes.

                        • #15285
                          Cathy
                          Participant

                            I’m really not flexible enough for the rotation into the split after the ankle hang and trying to figure out if giving myself more or less slack in the foot lock would help me get closer to the pose. I really liked some of the shapes in the mini rig version so if I can’t find something that works for my body I may try mixing and matching. 🙂

                            • #15286
                              Silks Stars Team
                              Moderator

                                Love a good mix and match!!

                              • #15294
                                Cathy
                                Participant

                                  Any tips on the amount of slack or height for the footlock?

                                • #15296
                                  Silks Stars Team
                                  Moderator

                                    Great question. Typically, more slack means more room. A difference between the two choreography options is the position of the hips to the foot in the belay before wrapping the footlock on the free leg. Being under the foot in the ankle hang makes a more vertical shape. Being on top of the foot in the belay gives your a more horizontal option. If you are trying a mix and match, exploring what shapes feel accessible to your body in the horizontal space might be a good place to start. These shapes might also be accessible in the vertical space, it’s translating the body position while inverted. For example, you may have room for some split shapes from the ankle hang if the hands start lower before turning over. Happy training!

                                • #15302
                                  Jill.b.lovin.aerial
                                  Participant

                                    I’m really struggling with the final pullover in the mini rig version. I can do a pullover in the knot or over a bar, but for some reason I’m really on the struggle bus to do it in this challenge and the one time I just bent my knees and did a really ugly one to try to find the path, the silks were horribly tangled and I was not beautifully released as in the demo.😂 I’ll keep working, but looking forward to the Q&A!

                                  • #15308
                                    robpippi
                                    Participant

                                      Nice, flowy challenge!!! I have very hard time with the foot hang, any suggestion to make it not a torture? It’s only practice?
                                      Thank you!!

                                      • #15314
                                        Silks Stars Team
                                        Moderator

                                          Practice is certainly part of it! Sometimes when training a skill with a lot of sensation, setting a goal of trying it two to three times per session gives your body time to acclimate. Making sure the wrap starts tight around the leg side of the ankle before settling in to prevent uneven cinching is another aspect to consider. Strengthening the flex of the foot so when you are hanging, you are activated into the fabric rather than your foot being pulled away from the body is another place to find some comfort. And breathing! Some of the training we do where discomfort is a part of it is retraining the sensation. If we can comfort the body and brain in the skill, it’s yet another layer of training the body to find the ankle hang to be less daunting. Listening to your body in the process is key! Happy training!

                                        • #15316
                                          aerial.borealis
                                          Participant

                                            I don’t know if will help, but I started with some low “ankle hangs” (upper back resting on ground), practicing engaging my entire leg, quad on down, to hold the flex for ankle hang. That seemed to take the tourniquet feel off the top off my foot. You can just tie a knot at a good height and practice in the loop part. 😁

                                          • #15317
                                            Silks Stars Team
                                            Moderator

                                              Oh yes! Good point. Modifying the amount of weight a new skill manages is another great way to build both strength required and the level of sensation experienced each step of the way.

                                            • #15353
                                              robpippi
                                              Participant

                                                Thank you!!! I Will try It out!!!

                                            • #15315
                                              aerial.borealis
                                              Participant

                                                Any tips for height control? I’m trying to keep the belay loop as short as possible, but still tuning out of space on my 20’ rig, starting w hands just below rescue 8. Besides keeping foot on loop as we pike through, other tips welcome!

                                                • #15318
                                                  Silks Stars Team
                                                  Moderator

                                                    Excellent question. The loop will most likely end up being hip height. Once you are upright, if all the weight is in the loop and the live end of the belay, or the tail that allows the loop to become either bigger or smaller, is not controlled, you will create more slack in the loop. You can try sharing weight between the foot and the hands to keep the loop the same length. In the demo video, Lydia leans on the belay loop sideways away from the live side, keeping pressure off of the live end so it doesn’t slide any further. There is little pressure on the loop while she preps for the knee drop and once the hands release from above the belay loop, they catch both tails to keep any new slack from occurring. Not much rest for your grip to really keep the loop from sliding open! Keep us posted!

                                                  • #15379
                                                    aerial.borealis
                                                    Participant

                                                      Finally stopped raining! I tried keeping more in my hands on the roll, that made all the diff, finally had space for the footlock. Still ugly, one more day! 😓💪🏼

                                                  • #15384
                                                    Gillian
                                                    Participant

                                                      Managed to get in the air to try the mini-rig version a couple of times – I’ve been struggling since my back surgery to train regularly or get past rebuilding the basics – not sure I’m ready to share the videos of my struggle this month!

                                                      • #15391
                                                        aerial.borealis
                                                        Participant

                                                          Hey there, surgery sister! This is my first try post-full abdominal hysterectomy, too, I’m recording now. Good news, no cancer. Bad news, I’m in recovery mode. You’re amazing and strong and your newly modified body is amazing and strong, too. Today is today and tomorrow will be even better. You inspire ME!

                                                        • #15432
                                                          Gillian
                                                          Participant

                                                            You’ve got this! Make sure you stay in recovery mode as long as you and your body needs x

                                                        • #15423
                                                          Robin
                                                          Participant

                                                            Hello! I tried this early September and loved it (and I had work to do) but then had foot surgery (stick in foot. Not optimal!) and once it recovered the weather was too windy with rolly seas. Maybe I’ll combine Sept and Oct next weather window!

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