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Ooooh this one is going to be fun, I’ve already worn out my left toe with the toe pose. My question is related to the drop. I had a similar one with, I think it was Brendan, who did a similar drop to upright, then back up to chair. The problem then, and now, is when to drive my legs down and raise my chest to make that first catch. I’ve watched my video and know it’s on the side rotation, but when doing the drop I can’t quite tell when that moment is yet. Any cues or points, where I need to be more “active?” My fail point is when you are head down, toes up (about 11 and 5 on the clock), I couldn’t get past that today. Will keep drilling, but any tips would be appreciated.
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Hi folks – i’m new here and equally excited and intimidated to be a part of this fabulous community.
Love the February sequence! It’s so fun and beautiful but am getting stuck on the toe split toss. I can’t seem to get my foot anywhere near the silk to catch for the split, even with the tip to slide my hand lower. I’m just not bendy enough. My silk is also low stretch so it has minimal bounce to help with that step. Any tips or modifications for the toss would be greatly appreciated?
I am also struggling with catching behind the head after the drop. I feel like that will be a long term goal for me and I may not get it this month (which is fine, i’m having a great time with just the drop), but if you have any tips or pointers to help with the catch that would be great also.
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Welcome! We are so glad you are here!
Typically the first flurry of questions are collected for the coach of the specific sequence to be able to respond directly to the questions in the Q&A. We highly recommend either joining us for the live session or watching the replay. Once the Q&A has happened, we continue to answer questions here 🙂
Yours have been added to the list!
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Questions (Demo Video reference):
1. (0:43-0:44) When she is using the leg swing to kick her leg back and catch the split, the toe grab leg goes from bent to straight. But, it does not look like her top hand or toe grab leg are sliding on the silk. Conceptually, I don’t understand how to get that toe grab leg straight without sliding the leg down, but maybe that is due to her hyper flexibility (?)
2. Related to the above, I now have a burn between my toes. How do I protect from burning the toe “wedge”?
3. “Bouncing:” I don’t understand how to bounce, when to bounce, how/when it is safe and how you know, etc. Is it possible to do the sequence without bouncing? It seems like the split catch requires the bounce. But, even moving my hand down the silk, the leg does not get high enough up – not remotely close.
4. (1:17) possible duplicate to Danica’s question — catching on the backside at the end of the drop. I did not get this from Brandon’s sequence either. I still don’t understand how this works. Right now, I am not even getting close no matter how much a drive my legs.-
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@ncupps: Is the a link for the video reference? Not seeing one on your page
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To Meredith from another non-bendy person. I am not advanced enough to give any advice but wanted to share what worked for me today. After struggling to slot my foot on the silk, I decided to also concentrate on my shoulder rotation and try to get the left hand as much to the back as possible and then I managed to get my foot there! Okay it was quite ugly but I was happy:)
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Hi there.
The rotation right before the toe part hurts in my shoulder, any tips on this rotation? It reminds me to music box rotation which my shoulder does not like, but I can deal with it by grabbing higher, with this month’s challenge, grabbing higher does not work make it any better. And yes like other the split toss is not going to happen.. simply not bendy enough, any other tips as holding the fabric low? Or maybe another option? -
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Hi, I have a bad shoulder and I’m not that flexible. Is there something else I can do in lieu of that toe hook needle split at 26 seconds?
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Hi! Very impressive sequence this month 🙂
I find the Front-Side-Catch Drop very complex due to the continuous shifts in direction throughout the movement. I’m sharing a small reflection on its mechanics and would love feedback to help me break down this amazing drop more effectively.
In my opinion, the drop consists of three key phases:
The first phase is a full forward rotation where the body completes a full spin.
The second phase is a transition where the body shifts sideways, adjusting for the next movement.
The third phase is a back dive.
I have a few technical questions regarding each phase, and any clarification or explanation of what you feel while performing it is highly appreciated!
Phase 1: Should we slow down the initial forward rotation by for example piking to maintain better control, or the opposite, i.e. generating as much momentum as possible staying fully planked?
Phase 2: How can we ensure the legs stay fully extended throughout the movement? Specially the wrapped leg tends to bend and be pushed to the side in this phase. Should we actively guide the wrapped leg positioning to control the drop direction more effectively? I wonder if a double leg wrap would help here by easing the pain?
Phase 3: The back dive. During the last rotation, I feel it is not safe for my groin area. Often, at least my pants gets caught, causing an abrupt stop. When this happens I unconsciously pike my body and lose all the momentum. What adjustments can prevent this friction and allow a smoother back dive turn?
Looking forward to your insights!
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I haven’t quite made it to the drop yet since I’m stuck on the toe split toss portion. I can get the toe hold and take my footlock off but it doesn’t feel secure enough to bounce and throw the silk. I’ve been practicing the toss (without the toe hold) from the ground and I think I understand that part but I just don’t feel like I’m secure enough or have enough space to do the toss. Hints and/or alternatives please!
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Hi Mizuki! Can you give us some tips on how to achieve the Deltchev split (even if it’s not part of this month’s challenge)?
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Hi Everyone, here are the two variations of this month’s sequence that we showed during the Q&A today. These are great alternatives you can do this month if you don’t get the toe split and/or momentum version of the drop by the end of the month. No Stars will be deducted for these alternatives.
Split:
https://www.silksstars.com/community/silksstarsteam/media/5307/Drop:
https://www.silksstars.com/community/silksstarsteam/media/5309/Or you can just go to SilksStarsTeam profile and select ‘Media’ to see these options.
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Thanks for the links. Still unable to get any replays to load for Crowdcast. Been having trouble for months. Tried phone, different browsers and managed to hunt down a computer this morning and it still won’t load. I can watch the replays later if I manage to catch the Crowdcast and log in live. But if I miss it the replay load just comes up with the play arrow in the middle of the screen with a fail line through the middle. If anybody else has had success fixing their replay issues… any tips? Really want to check in on this months one 😅
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Hi Laced, here is what Crowdcast suggested. We also gave them your email so they will be reaching out to help.
—If you’re experiencing issues with viewing replays on Crowdcast using an iPhone or a Mac with Chrome or Safari, you might want to try deleting and reinstalling the Crowdcast app on your iPhone. For Mac users, ensure that your browser is up-to-date, as an outdated browser can cause issues with Crowdcast. Chrome is the preferred browser, but if you’re using Safari and encountering problems, consider switching to Chrome or another supported browser like Microsoft Edge or Opera. Also switching from home network to phone data can work
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Oh my gosh see I’m not Telstra. It’s so weird because it worked for years and stopped about 6 months ago!
So I’ve been emailing them and I just downloaded tunnelbear I’m so not tech savvy I don’t even know wtf a vpn is but it seems to be working this morning with that.
But yes I tried everything else the uninstall the comp, the different browsers ‘all of them’
I’m not sure if the free version will cover much but hopefully these replays. So strange when you can log in live but it’s blocking replays 🤷🏻♀️Thanks for your suggested help though! If you need to I’d try tumnelbear too maybe it’s a qld thing 🙄
Also hi!! If you’re ever in brissy hit me up ☺️
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Thank you for the Q&A! Great tips, I will try to practice the toe toss with a footlock, because I lose toe grip in the process and then my right hand gives up so I am never able to get the foot into the silk (the one time I managed it was a fluke and I was not able to repeat it so far😅). Will also try to bring my body more forward as mentioned by Mizuki, great tip too!
I havent gathered the courage to try the drop yet as I never attempted a new drop without my instructor yet but I think I will try it – I have done all those small drops that are sort of part of this drop separately and they are not scary. As for the momentum, I will never understand unless I try:) -
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If you don’t end up seeing a video of the wrap variations and if the drop combo in new to you, keeping the belly wrap will offer you more tail control in the landing. The double leg wrap is instead of going around the leg once, you do it twice. Can add extra comfort if wrapped high and tight. Happy training!
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Regarding the drop – any tips on getting that final rotation? I seem to be dropping like a rock. It looks like a wonky star drop.
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Excellent progress! The first place to find a bit more momentum is to take the arch out of your first shape before you let go. Think about pressing the low back, using your core, towards the pole as much as possible and bring the toes forward to make a straight line. Hold this shape for the front rotation and as the pole passes your back for the ‘side’ rotation. As your chest faces the ceiling right before the legs pass the poles, lengthen through the spine once again, this is another place to prep some more momentum. As the drop lands into the wrap, press the hips forward into the wrap the lever the upper body upright. The timing takes a bit to find for the final hip press, arch up. Happy training!
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It really depends on your previous drop experience. Some things we are looking for is being able to see while the drop is happening, is it all a blur or do you get snap shots? Are you able to maintain activation while finding a sense of calm mentally? These are factors that will help make the drop feel less like something just happening to you and where you actually might get to make a decision or two. Try the drop a few times without the goal of the back catch. Does it have a consistent rhythm and timing? Once you start being able to identify the different parts of the drop, first rotation, side rotation, and landing, then we can use them. If we try to create the back arch too soon or too late using the moment of landing, we will most likely not harness the momentum of our fall. Hope this helps!
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One more question regarding the drop – is it better to learn it on a bouncy rigging point or on a fixed (non-bouncy) one? We have both types in our studio and I was trying it on a bouncy point, because I was afraid the fixed one might be painful?
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Great question. It will feel different on each kind of point, the fixed point being a harder landing and the bouncy one giving you a bit more give. This also gives us a sense of how the timing of our use of momentum will change. You might have to anticipate the landing to use it to find the back arch on the fixed point, which can lead to trying the arch too soon. The bouncy point means you have more time but most likely have to arch and press longer. You may have more runs on the bouncy point as the system is taking some of the force of the drop while the fixed point, the softest part of that system is your body. The bouncy point may be nicer in the long run, try the above suggestion of riding out the drop staying long and engaged without attempting the back arch to really understand the timing of the rotations and bounce.
Happy training!
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Any last minute tip or trick? I just don’t seem to be able to catch the top of my foot on the free silk. I am just kicking the outside of my wrist again and again and again. 😂
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https://www.silksstars.com/community/jill-b-lovin-aerial/media/5316/
It didn’t seem like my video posted above, so I’m trying again.
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Thanks for the video, Jill!
Fantastic work on the toe hold. See if you can get your hips more upright over the standing leg so you can lean forward. That will give you more room. A nice check in on the ground is to sweep opposite foot to hand behind you and notice what your upper body does to make space for your toes to get above your wrist.
Happy training!
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Hi guys. I had a chance to give this a go again today and although I’m feeling a bit more momentum in the drop I’m not anywhere a tick tock at the bottom. Here is my practice video https://www.silksstars.com/community/caro/media/5321/
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Great work on staying long and tight through the drop!
In the final part of the drop where the back arch can happen, your legs are passing the pole on the same side rather than pole going between the legs for the arch up. If you are able to have a sense of where you are in space while dropping, the moment to prep for this is when the back passes the pole, or if we were doing the star style rotation, where the side ways part would happen. After the back passes the pole, the legs kick on either side of the pole, kicking/pressing/arching into the back arch. Since the legs are traveling on the same side of the pole, getting the arch up is not possible.
Happy training!
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Hi guys,
One person privately asked a good question about the tail during the drop. Here is a description of the tail placement during the drop that might be helpful for some of you!
-As you know when you start the drop the tail is on the left side of your body. As your body rotates into the back dive position, you want to continue to reach that left hand holding the tail towards that same direction it starts in… so that left arm actually reaches over the belly towards the right side as you face the pole to do the back dive portion. So imagine trying to keep the tail in the same spot, the body rotates but the left arm continues to reach in that same direction so the body folds into the arm, with the goal being to keep the tail relatively in the same place in space. Watch the video of Mizuki dropping a bunch of times.. if you look at where both her arms are right before she does the back dive portion, her left arm is reaching across her belly towards the right in order to hold the tail away from her body. Keeping the tail in relatively the same place during the rotations keeps your momentum going strong. If the tails start to fly around it will slow you way down and also they may get caught on your leg(s).
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